Forums New posts Search forums. What's new New posts New profile frame Latest activity. Members Registered members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. Log in Register. Search titles only. Search Dating search…. New posts. Search forums. Log in. Install the app. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using frame out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Thread starter BigS Start date Apr frame, Joined Dec 23, Messages Hey guys, As a preface, I do not believe the content of this post actually constitutes an advanced technique its about frame control, which is basichowever, dating depth of responses I am looking for would come from more advanced practitioners of seduction.

Recently, I went on dating first date with a girl from the dating app Hinge great app. During our online texting, I inadvertently set the frame of being a funny, friendly guy, rather than sexy or mysterious. This was my first if not only, mistake. I met her frame the date--we went to a classy bar with dim lighting and both ordered wine. Dating websites, it was readily apparent that she didn't put much work into her appearance, and lo and behold, we continued with this friendly, funny frame.

Some background: for the first several months of my seduction career I mostly relied on daygame and nightgame. I wanted to get past relying on online dating.

However, due to hearing about quick successes from other GC posters, and the sheer convenience of using online dating, I started to pick it up again. For the past month I have been relying mostly on online dating, rather than meeting girls in person, and my numbers have gone up approximately 1 lay per week.

However, my recent interaction with this girl mentioned abovewhich did not end in a lay I realized that where I went wrong was setting the wrong frame early on, so inviting the girl back to my place and her having sex with me was incongruent with the previous frame I had set. I believe that the answer lies within a handicap that online dating provides for guys who have difficulty setting frames.

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Of course, the initial match on the app is a weak frame and as evidenced by my aforementioned blunder, I was able to override this frame with dating own friendly frame, inadvertently. However, I believe that not going out and making approaches in real life has allowed my skills in setting sexual frames to get rusty. This form of approach requires that the guy set the frame, or else the couple will be left frame why they're interacting in the first place.

I realize that this post is really just me fleshing out an idea that has been thought through, but I would really appreciate some insight from more advanced practitioners re: times when they have developed strong skills in frame control, and times when those skills have weakened. Thanks, BigS.

Joined Sep 6, Messages I believe that it's not good at all dating only rely on one thing. Even if you get laid once a week off apps, frame that give you more confidence and motivation for other forms of game? Online to me is a great supplement to any type of game. I had some questions to ask you how my man: 1. Did you pay dating the wine for your date? How many drinks did you pay for?

Do you usually pay for dates or go half? How often frame you go for a date over straight to your place or hers? Could you give me a quick glimpse of your process of what you usually text girls, How long you wait to ask for a date, how long until you get a date, etc. Im going to defer this question to someone more experienced. I dont have a real method for getting the girl to invest more by paying for drinks. What usually happens is that the girl offers to split the check and I let her. In terms ofusually 1 drink each but sometimes 2 if i move her to another bar.

My seduction performance takes a hit after 2 drinks I have actually never been able to pull off this type of date, which leads me to After the match, I will wait 1 day to send the first text. And i usually frame the text with "hey [name]! For me, girls online are looking for several texts to build rapport before the ask. If this dating well and we have a connection, she will either present an escalation window, will ask me out, or frame will ask her out. My ask has 2 parts: 1. My preferred time is around 7pm, because if you go for the dating you can jenna ortega onlyfans her in bed by 10pm.

Hope this helps, BigS. How does it work with splitting drinks? Do you charm them that much they just do it? That's cool they do that. Never really went out drinking for a date. Just asking to know how these situations play out because I frame pay for dates like that. Why do you wait one day to text after you match? I don't have my own place atm, I'm hoping it won't be hard to dating to their place.

I'm trying to get to 1 lay a week as well. Thanks man.

Frame Control: Where Online Dating Falls Short

Joined Jul 24, Messages 2, SZ - I've only had a few online dates. For the most part they were down for a quickie and go I think all of them met for a same day-same night meetup.

One I missed off of OKC was a divorced mother who wanted to meet for coffee at 11 am while her kids were in school. She talked about her apartment a few blocks away she was living in until she moved into frame new house in the next town. Looking back I think she was looking to get laid. For me it was more of a check on whether I had sown enough oats. She really wanted to go on another date with me but Dating never reengaged. But the lesson here dating to listen for clues like when they talk about their living situation.

But YOU are completely responsible for making sure you have logistics for the pull. Seppuku Tribal Elder Dating Elder. Joined Aug 25, Messages 1, As per my credentials to answer your questions on online game, I am mostly an online game guy, over dates from online gaming in the last 5 years. About setting frame Now to answer your primary question, I don't see an inherent problem with setting frames in dating apps.

On the contrary, I have found that dating apps help you set the right frame from the beginning. After all, it is a dating app. When you two meet, it is already taken for granted by the two of you, that this is about dating, and ultimately, mating. That's what I like about dating apps, the underlying frame is "romantic context" from the get-go. In contrast, I have also met one woman from LinkedIn, where the underlying frame is "business context".

It took me ages to change the frame to a romantic one. Now, within the "romantic context" frame, there are tons of nuances, and if you want to be successful, you still need to navigate within these frame or "frames" and set the right one from the very beginning.

The first and biggest one to set is "cool, non needy, non chasey". It is possible to establish this frame from the onset of conversation - the usual "texting tips" all aim at creating this frame. It is also possible to establish a strongly sexual frame, even while still in the "before first meet" stage.

See the below example, a girl I dating in Tinder, who sent me a picture of herself with a dating smile: Me: The question is now open Her: What question? Me: Do you have somewhere, some other cheeks? And if yes, are they chubby, too? Her: Nope. I have two pairs of lips, not cheeks Me: No need for lipstick on the other lips.

They're pretty enough! Is he chubby too? Me: He's a lovable dick, if I may frame so.